The final person who spoke with Charlie Kirk has shared his account of their last interaction.
“You’re the sick mind who thinks this is a solution… I don’t even know how to describe it, it’s just terrible. Now the father doesn’t get to see his kids anymore. Charlie had two kids,” stated Hunter Kozak, a 29-year-old. Kozak added.
“Please, don’t make this about me, but I have two kids and a wife… If my one-year-old boy grows up without any memories of his dad—that’s a tragedy, and it’s really hard to deal with,” he shared.
Kozak described himself and his wife as “embarrassing liberals.” According to a report by New York Times, Kozak’s wife gave birth to their second child on Sunday. The couple revealed that Kirk had spent the day prior to the incident at the hospital with their newborn daughter in the neonatal care unit.
The man who asked Charlie the question just before he was shot.
“The point I was trying to illustrate was how peaceful the left was right before he was shot.”
– Defiant L’S (@defiantls) September 12, 2025
Kozak started his video by discussing the events timeline. “I’m not really sure how to make this video. It was a tough 24 hours,” he remarked.
He then showed an old clip of himself debating Kirk’s views on transgender issues.
“While going through Charlie Kirk’s videos, I noticed he was touring colleges—one of which is where I currently attend,” Kozak reflected in that older video.
Revisiting his last exchange with Kirk, he recalled asking, “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last decade?”
To which Kirk replied, “Too many.”
Their brief dialogue concluded with Kozak asking, “Do you count or not count gang violence?” and then, shortly after, Kirk was shot. “We couldn’t have asked any more poorly worded questions,” Kozak noted to NYT.
Charlie Kirk was seen with friends and family on Fox just weeks prior to the shooting in Utah. Prayers continue for those at Turning Point USA.
– Fox News (@foxnews) September 10, 2025
Kozak highlighted the irony of the circumstances, emphasizing the peacefulness he felt was prevalent just moments before the shooting. “I’m agreeing little by little with everything he said, but one thing he was advocating was dialogue,” Kozak asserted, claiming that police had responded positively to his thoughts.
“If you’re lashing out about what occurred, don’t do that,” Kozak cautioned his viewers. “I’m not sure if you’re part of my audience, but if you are, that’s not what I’m trying to build.”
“Spatter” seems to be the right term here. Thankfully, many channels that spewed such hateful rhetoric were quickly called out for it.
“Regardless of my disagreements with Charlie Kirk… he’s still a human being. Have we forgotten that? Are we losing our minds?” Kozak questioned.
Indeed, it seems many people have forgotten.
