Robert F. Kennedy Jr. had a lively exchange with television host and podcaster Howie Mandel regarding claims made in the media about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines. Mr. Mandel argued that the message was not as misleading as Mr. Kennedy claimed.
Regarding Mandel,Howie Mandel will do anything” On the podcast, Kennedy tried to explain that claims made after COVID-19 vaccine trials were not transparent.
Mandel acknowledged that there are at-risk groups who are more likely to need vaccination: those who are obese, sick or elderly.
Kennedy described Pfizer's clinical trials.
“In the clinical trial study, 22,000 people received the vaccine and 22,000 received the placebo. After six months, what were the results? We submitted that data to the FDA for emergency use authorization. I needed to,” Kennedy began. . “The data showed that there was 1 in 22,000 COVID-19 deaths over six months in the vaccinated group, compared to 2 in 22,000 COVID-19 deaths in the unvaccinated group. Because of the deaths caused by the virus, the company was able to tell the public that the vaccine is 100% effective.''
“That's a mistake,” Mandel quickly replied. “It's 100% effective as far as … because I saw people on the news saying, 'I got the vaccine and I still get COVID.' I didn't say it wouldn't, I just said it would set back the severity to some degree.”
President Kennedy continued, “What they're saying is that out of 22,000 vaccinated people, one person will die from COVID-19, and out of 22,000 people who haven't been vaccinated, two people will die from COVID-19.'' There are deaths from the coronavirus, so they can claim it's 100% effective.”
“What's the effect? I can't use the word effect,” Mr. Mandel exclaimed.
“Remember when they kept saying it was 100% effective?” Kennedy asked.
“No, they just said it counteracts the severity. … When I say 'effective,' I don't mean it's not effective.” [it]”I've never heard of 'I can't get coronavirus,'” Mandel added.
“It's not 100% effective, but if that's the metric, what they really should have told us is that in order to prevent one COVID-19 death, it takes 22,000 doses. This means that they need to be vaccinated.”
Mandel later summarized his position by explaining that many of the decisions made by the establishment were rushed in panic.
“I think there were a lot of mistakes made, but we panicked and made decisions based on the amount of information we had at this point,” he said, adding that guidance is evolving as more information becomes available. He added that
The judges on the television panel also pointedly asked Kennedy if he was “anti-vaccine,” to which Kennedy replied, “If you show me a vaccine that is safe and effective and works as it should, I will.” I won't say anything.'' There's a problem with that. ”
Mandel, a longtime comedian, has continued to break away from his typical elements in recent months in support of free speech and open commentary.
In December 2023, Mandel will appear on the popular comedy podcast “kill tony'', praising the program's free speech spirit.
“There's no such thing as political correctness. It's comedy! And now I live in Los Angeles and it's tough. I can't say what I want to say,” he explained. “Only you can give people the platform to do it right. It’s funny and it’s raw. [the audience isn’t] As long as you record it, you can say anything you want on this show! ” he exclaimed.
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