Democratic strategist and media expert Rhys Smith told former Obama adviser Tommy Vieter on Wednesday's podcast that Vice President Kamala Harris' “Call Her Daddy” episode focused too much on policy. He said he had failed.
Mr Smith said the party needed to find someone with whom he could have a normal conversation.
During the campaign, Harris was repeatedly accused of avoiding the press in the early days of her candidacy, and later faced backlash for vague answers when asked about her left-wing policies and back-and-forth about her platform. On “Pod Save America,” Vieter asked Smith about corporate media's declining influence over voters and whether Democrats should explore platforms like YouTube to build their own ecosystem. asked.
“So we can build our own ecosystem, and I think that's part of it. But when I hear people say they need their own Joe Rogan, I'm like, 'What? Hey?” It's obvious you've never heard of Joe Rogan. This is not a political show,” Smith said. “So what people on our side think is the problem is; [who] Don't listen to Joe Rogan, you don't understand that kind of territory, right? They think, “Okay, we need the guy on the left.” It's not a political show. I think what we need is people who can be on a show like Joe Rogan. ”
“It means people can actually have conversations, which I think sometimes is a challenge and a challenge, especially for older politicians. Donald Trump is a bit of an anomaly, but they're used to talking and , they prefer talking points and policies, so it's hard to break through and have a normal conversation,'' Smith added.
Smith went on to say that Harris missed an opportunity when she appeared on podcaster Alex Cooper's show. Remarkably, the video was just seven minutes of the 44-minute long interview and only received 896,000 views. YouTube. By comparison, other long-form interviews Cooper has done over the years with former porn star Mia Khalifa, Playboy bunny Holly Madison, and TikToker Madison Lewis have each garnered more than 1 million views. are. (Related: 'Trump exists as you are AF*CK': President Obama adviser acknowledges 'huge culture' supporting him)
“When Kamala Harris appeared on 'Call Her Daddy,' I thought it was a bit of a missed opportunity because it was so policy-focused,” Smith said. “I mean, it should have been the same as our regular program on 'Call Her Daddy.' Obviously, we're going to tone it down a little bit. So we're going to ask her a lot of the questions that Alex Cooper would ask his guests.” There’s nothing to ask.”
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“If you look at the demographics of who listens to Rogan, right? It's very diverse, it's very diverse ideologically. It's one-third Republicans, one-third Democrats, one-third independents, three It's about one-third, one-third. It's very ethnically diverse, a lot of young men,” Smith said. “These are people who are basically doing everything in their power, and they don't need to listen to MSNBC or consume political news.”
The Democratic strategist went on to highlight how people who get their information from podcasts like “The Joe Rogan Experience” are avoiding corporate media, saying the party needs candidates who don't just hit political points. He pointed out that there was a need to fill the ranks of party members.
“So this is the only way to reach them. Why on earth aren't we trying to reach them there? But to do that effectively, we need candidates who can stick around. [and] Please have those conversations. To me, that speaks to the need for younger, fresher, more normal voices,” Smith said. “These are people who can go beyond just policy issues.”
Following Harris' appearance with Cooper, President-elect Donald Trump appeared on podcaster Joe Rogan's show just a week before Election Day. 51 million interviews recorded view Since losing the election, the two were seen talking for nearly three hours about Trump's plans and experiences so far in his first term.
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