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Sam Altman, CEO and co-founder of OpenAI, spoke about his feud with Elon Musk and his views on how regulations related to artificial intelligence (AI) development should be framed.
Altman appeared on an episode of the Free Press Podcast “Honestly with Bari Weiss” The report was released Thursday, and Weiss publicly criticized Musk over concerns about the safety of AI, explaining why OpenAI, which was initially founded as a nonprofit, is now a for-profit company with restrictions. He was asked whether he had filed a lawsuit to prevent the structure from being created.
Musk was a co-founder of OpenAI, but severed ties with the company in 2018 after failing to convince other executives to either lead the for-profit OpenAI entity or merge with Tesla. Ta. Weiss said that Musk likened Altman to the character Pinky, the antagonist in the “Game of Thrones” series, and that xAI founder Altman heads the company that controls the world's most powerful AI. He pointed out that he said he didn't trust him.
“I think it's because he wants him to control the most powerful AI in the world,” Altman said. “And, again, I've seen Elon attack a lot of other people, a lot of friends of mine. Everybody has his moment in the spotlight. But this all seems like standard behavior for him.
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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said he believes Elon Musk's lawsuit is because he wants to control the world's most powerful AI. (Fabrice Coffrini/AFP via Getty Images/Getty Images)
“Obviously, I'm upset about that. I was recently talking to someone I thought was close to me, and they said, 'Elon doesn't have any friends. “No, Elon has no friends.'' That was kind of a sad moment for me, because I consider him a friend,'' Altman said.
“I can look at this somewhat soberly. He said OpenAI has a 0% chance of success, you guys are idiots, I'm raising money, and I'm going to do my own thing. “I remember when he said that,” he continued.
“Since then, I remember what it was like in that moment where he felt like he wanted to reconcile a little bit and find a way to work together. And I remember him saying things like he quit his job on Twitter. I remember the moment, and I think it would have been even more painful if it had been directed only at me,” Altman said. “But, you know, I think you can tell by Twitter what kind of person he is, so I might be able to be somewhat impersonal and say this is about Elon, not about me. It's terrible, I've been there for a long time, I guess, just to get used to it. ”
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OpenAI's co-founders included Elon Musk (left) and Sam Altman, but Musk later severed ties with the AI startup. (Michael Kovac/Getty Images for Vanity Fair/Getty Images)
Weiss pointed out that OpenAI's recent blog posts and court filings are pushing back on Musk's lawsuit against the company, arguing that Musk is focusing on his company's xAI rather than AI safety or the ChatGPT maker's real concerns. I asked Mr. Altman whether he believed he was suing the company for competitive purposes to benefit the company. Corporate structure.
Altman replied that you should ask Musk. He went on to explain that he believes over-regulation of AI could have “tremendous negative consequences,” but noted that he, Musk and other major AI companies support regulation. .
“Some regulation is obviously a good thing. I can imagine a version of AI regulation that is really problematic right now and would penalize smaller efforts, and I think that would be a real mistake,” Altman explained. did. “But when it comes to safety guardrails on some of the most powerful systems, they should only impact those on the front lines, and only OpenAI and a few others. I don't think we're quite there yet to the level that the system can achieve. There are big implications for safety, but I don't think we're that far off, so that's kind of the art here.”
OPENAI is reportedly aiming to strip management rights from the nonprofit board and reorganize it into a for-profit organization.
Elon Musk supported President-elect Trump's campaign and was appointed co-leader of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). (Brandon Bell/Getty Images/Getty Images)
Weiss asked Altman about claims by some AI startups that OpenAI and other big AI companies are trying to build a regulatory wall against smaller competitors that could grow into rivals. Ta. He responded that the only regulation he is seeking is for “new and untested” activities at the forefront of AI development.
Weiss went on to discuss comments made by Marc Andreessen on his podcast, and how the Biden administration is trying to control and regulate AI, and how only a small number of large companies will be able to work with the government to protect them from competition. He mentioned the recognition of
“I don't think that's true. I don't know what he's referring to, and to be very clear, I think regulations that reduce competition in AI are a very bad thing,” Altman said. said. Weiss asked if OpenAI and other AI companies are meeting with the Biden administration to discuss that type of regulatory arrangement.
“I don't even think it's enough that the Biden administration is competent…I mean, we were in the same room with them and other companies and the administration and we said, 'Here's our conspiracy theory, we're We never thought, “This is what we're going to do.'' We'll only let a few companies build AI, and then they'll have to do what we say. “That will never happen,'' Altman said.
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The OpenAI co-founder also said he believes Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo is more attuned to the rise of AI and priorities than the entire Biden administration.
“Gina Raimondo was great, I think she was great. Every time I had a conversation with her, I thought she had some understanding. Overall, I would say the administration was not very effective.” he said.
“What I think should have been the administration's priority, and what I hope will be the next administration's priority, is to build a large-scale AI infrastructure in the United States,” Altman said. , and having a supply chain within the United States.”
