Pat Gray invited professional musician Shem von Schrock and Blaze News investigative journalist Steve Baker on the show to dig into Ray Epps' theories you won't hear anywhere else.
Oddly enough, Schrock knew Ray Epps on a personal level at some point.
“Ray Epps was my handyman from 2008 to 2010/11. He probably did six or seven jobs at my house,” said Schrock, who described Epps as “6-foot-4. He was described as “a big man, taller than an inch'' and “ready to talk about his political policies.''
“He handed me an Oath Keepers card with his name and number on it,” he said, “'Hey, you need to come to the meeting. We need people like you. ''' Schrock recalled, adding that Epps thought he was 'George Washington' Who Can 'Save the World?'
“[Epps] At the time, I was in charge of the Arizona chapter of Keepers,” Baker added.
As for the conspiracy theory that Epps was cooperating with the FBI on January 6, Schrock says, “There's nothing in me that believes that.”
When Schrock first heard Tucker Carlson mention the FBI theory about Fox, he immediately responded, “I don't support the Fed's claims.”
“This man would never betray his cause. I think he was taken advantage of,” he explained, adding that if the FBI was looking for someone who could draw the masses to the Capitol, Epps was “the perfect person.” “A man,” he added.
Baker agrees. “If you can convince a guy like that that he's in the service of God and country, that's fine.”
“So I think all the epilogues are after the fact. He realizes he's been tricked and makes a deal. Don't talk about how you got 'recruited'. I'll leave it to you in peace,” Schrock said. I conclude.
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