A body language expert told Dr. Phil after Tuesday's presidential debate that the ABC News hosts were clearly endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris.
Dr. Phil spoke with experts Scott Routh and Greg Hartley in a special post-debate town hall broadcast. Mr. Routh is multi-certified in advanced interrogation training and has trained for the FBI, Secret Service, Military Intelligence and the Department of Defense. Mr. Hartley is a former Army interrogator with expertise in intelligence, business, body language and behavior.
Asked whether modestors David Muir and Lindsey Davis were biased during Tuesday's debate, Hartley said they both spoke out against former President Trump.
“Look at people's body language and facial expressions when they look at Trump, their expressions clearly show their prejudice against Trump,” he said.
Two body language experts questioned the impartiality of the network that hosted the discussion.
Regarding Harris, he said: “It's a bit of a faux pas to ask one person two questions in a row. It's a simple question that to me feels like bias. If I were him, I'd challenge them to explain why it's not bias.”
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Rouse argued that one of the key points of the debate was the moderator's attempts to interrupt Trump.
“At the same time, you see the commentators are speaking at the same time as President Trump, so while President Trump is finishing his answer, not only are they continuing to answer, they're continuing to talk,” he said.
Rouse then used his expertise as a Grammy-nominated music producer to suggest one key difference in the network's handling of Trump and Harris.
“And if I'm right, [Trump’s] “Maybe the microphone was a little bit 'hotter' than the others,” Rouse said, “so his voice was louder. He was talking loud, but I think if you listen back you'll hear that. That's just my opinion.”
U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris (R) and former U.S. President Donald Trump attend the second presidential debate at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States, Tuesday, September 10, 2024. Democrat Kamala Harris touted her economic policies at the start of the presidential debate with Republican Donald Trump, saying she was the only candidate onstage with a plan focused on “lifting up middle class and working class America.” (Doug Mills/The New York Times/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
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“So I don't know if it was a ploy to make him sound more aggressive or not, but he was pretty loud out there,” he added.
Dr Phil then read out the questions asked to Ms Harris and Mr Trump, saying: “Each of the questions asked to Mr Trump had fact-checks and follow-up questions which Ms Harris did not hear.”
“That's what I did,” Hartley said. “There are different ways to ask questions. I've been interrogating people for a long time, and when you're doing that, you want to think about, 'How do I ask questions?' Why didn't you say, 'Why didn't you do anything about the border, as opposed to Trump?'
“We often see a more negative tone towards Trump,” he added. “At the end of the day, this is to give everyone a chance to see and understand what Trump is thinking. And I thought it was a little bit too forceful at times, but that's just my opinion.”
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