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Carroll says Trump is ‘nothing,’ ‘we don’t need to be afraid of him’

Longtime advice columnist E. Jean Carroll on Monday reflected on how her perception of former President Trump has changed, revealing that she now believes the former president is a “nothing” that people “don’t have to fear”. I made it.

Carroll spoke with MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow on Monday and said she was “terrified” to face the former president in a defamation case.

“Three days…four days before the trial, I actually got sick,” Carroll said. “I lost the ability to speak, I lost my words, I couldn’t speak, I couldn’t go on. That was… that’s how scary it was.”

When Carroll took the witness stand during the trial, his demeanor changed.

“But strangely enough, we went to court. [lawyer] lobby [Kaplan] I took Lecter with me and sat on the witness stand. And she said, “Miss.” Carol, good morning. Could you please state your name to the court? ‘ said Carroll. “And to his surprise, when he looked outside, he was nothing. There wasn’t.”

“That was an amazing discovery for me,” she added. “We don’t have to be afraid of him because he’s nothing. He can be taken down.”

A jury last week ordered Trump to pay a whopping $83.3 million for defaming Carroll in 2019, denying his claims that he sexually assaulted her in the mid-1990s. . President Trump has vowed to appeal the ruling.

The order came after another jury last year found Trump liable for sexually abusing Carroll and defaming her in separate comments. He was ordered to pay $5 million.

In an interview with “CBS Mornings” on Monday, Carroll likened the former president to the protagonist in the cautionary tale “The Emperor’s New Clothes,” in that he owes his power to his supporters.

“Then Andersen’s great fairy tale ‘The Emperor Has No Clothes’?” It’s written about Donald Trump. However, we are the ones who clothe him with all this power. he has nothing of himself. It’s his followers. That’s his thing,” Carroll said.

Roberta “Robbie” Kaplan, Carroll’s lawyer, said the defamation case “proved” that “it’s time to stand up to some of the biggest bullies in the world or America today.”

“And the way we do that is by using the facts and the law and our legal system to say we’re not afraid,” Kaplan said Monday. “And to see a jury of nine New Yorkers stand up to him, just like the rest of us, and say, ‘Not only did you do this, you owe her $83 million.’ I did.”

Carroll reiterated Monday that she intends to “put the money to good use” and has “some good ideas” that she and her team are working on.

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