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Jill Duggar, husband claim family’s beliefs created ‘hierarchy’ based on who had the most kids

Jill Duggar Dillard, a mother of three, is one of 19 children raised at the Institute for Fundamental Living Principles, a fundamentalist Christian organization, and is forced to have many children of her own. He detailed the pressure he faced to do so.

Dillard recently told Dr. Julie Hanks on her podcast that her fertility issues were complicated by her upbringing after the birth of her second son.

“In the book [memoir ‘Counting the Cost’], I talk about feeling pressured and having to make it okay to have a lot of kids, and how the belief system I grew up with changed to, “Do I believe in God?” How many children should I have? Also, does that mean we’ll trust him even if he doesn’t give us 20 kids or whatever? ” she explained.

She even wondered if she was being ‘punished’ for her infertility by not having the desire to have 20 children. It’s like a mind game you play,” she said.

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Jill Duggar and her husband agree that her family’s participation in the Basic Living Principles Institute created a “hierarchy” within the family, with Duggar having the most children. (D Dipasupil/Getty Images, bonus)

Her husband, Derick Dillard, said the pressure to have more children creates a “hierarchy mentality,” which he called “another harmful aspect of the Institute,” adding that having fewer children makes you feel more self-conscious. He said it was like being inferior. Harmful. ”

Jill agreed with her husband’s statement, adding that her father, Jim Bob Duggar, “half-jokingly” said that out of 19 children, the one who had the most children would get the house. I also argued with people.

Jill said that after her second child was born, she told a friend, “I don’t know if I can have any more children,” and that her father, who was at the scene at the time, got sour and told Hanks, . “Well, we don’t actually know yet, do we?” And he’s like trying to take control of the situation. ”

She explained that in the Basic Living Principles Institute culture, “everyone has to have the mindset that they’re in the same space and there’s all these kids and you can’t really talk about it.” . [fertility] It’s a challenge especially at this level that we’re at on this platform, public figures and all the rest of us. ”

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Pregnant Jill Duggar and husband Derick Dillard

Jill Duggar Dillard and her husband Derick Dillard have three boys. (D Dipasupil/Getty Images, bonus)

Dillard said he was frustrated that his wife’s father acted as a “gatekeeper” to their information.

“Regardless of the extent to which we want to share with others, we are going to share with people,” he said.

“We can make decisions for our families,” Jill added emphatically.

Fox News Digital has reached out to Jim Bob, Michelle Duggar, and the Basic Living Principles Institute for comment.

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Jill, who appeared on “19 Kids and Counting” and “Counting On” from 2008 to 2017, told FOX News Digital earlier this year that she hasn’t changed her faith since leaving her parents’ home. He talked in detail about how it evolved.

The Duggar family as children

Jill Duggar Dillard is the fourth oldest in her family. (D Dipasupil/Getty Images, bonus)

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“I knew I could trust the Bible, I knew Jesus was my Lord and Savior, and from there it was a matter of really unpacking my faith,” she said. explained. “I didn’t just want to abandon my faith. I really wanted to sort things out. And I knew there was truth in some of the things I was taught as a child. But their perspectives and viewpoints are different.”

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“19 Kids and Counting” was canceled in 2015 after it was revealed that Duggar’s eldest son Josh Duggar sexually abused four of his younger sisters, including Jill. Counting On was canceled in 2021 after Josh Duggar was arrested on federal child pornography charges. Josh Duggar is serving a 12-year sentence. Jill is her fourth eldest child in the Duggar family.

Fox News Digital’s Christine Rousselle contributed to this report

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