In a rare and straightforward debate, conservative fire truck Michael Savage sat down with Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom for a conversation on his new podcast, covering a wide range of topics, from San Francisco's state to the future of the Democratic Party, providing a keen disagreement of an astounding ordinary position.
Exclusive sneak peek, previously offered to Breitbart News, offers a glimpse of Savage in an upcoming interview take Seat as the second guest of the governor This is Gavin Newsom Podcaststhere is no place where the topic is thought to be off limits.
Political division and the impact of JFK
Despite their ideological differences, iconic right-wing commentators and Democratic California governors have acknowledged their decades of acquaintances.
“We've known each other through the course on and off for decades, right?” Newsom said.
Savage reflected on how John F. Kennedy inspired him as a young man.
“I loved JFK. He was one of my heroes… “I don't ask what your country can do for you, I ask what you can do for your country” – it put steel on my spine. They criticized modern politics for losing that sense of responsibility, so I wanted to go outside and step into something.”
Boundaries, language, culture
His long-standing mantra, “Boundaries, Languages, Culture,” Savage cited historical examples and argued that without these, the nation would no longer exist. Newsom advertised California's efforts to support border enforcement, claiming that nearly 400 national security guards had been deployed to supplement border security.
“We put almost 400 people… Since I first became governor to supplement and support customs and border patrols at the border, I have put security guards across the country,” he said.
But Savage actually expressed his support for workers that have not been documented in the long term, saying, “I know someone who was within 20 years of Mexico. He works seven days a week and pays taxes. He can't become a citizen. That's wrong.”
Newsom agreed, adding, “67% of people here without California documents have been here for over a decade and are paying taxes.”
Health and nutrition
Turning to Savage's background in nutritional ethnomology, Savage detailed her academic journey.
“I made money [my PhD] It's two years and seven months, and this is a world record,” he said.
He also criticized what he saw as discrimination in academia. “I was rejected from all the positions I applied for, and I was told a point blank – we can't hire you because we have to fill in the quota.”
Savage lamented the health care system's condition and shared a personal story about being late in the hospital while suffering a heart attack.
“I have to wait in line. It's full of illegal aliens and the girl on the desk makes me wait,” he said. “I said [to her]”I'm dying, do you know?”
Newsom responded by defending California's approach and highlighting preventive care.
“That's why we're taking preventive care,” he said. “That's why there's a different approach.”
Climate change and science
Savage dismissed mainstream climate concerns as “complete bullshit,” citing the Vostok Ice Core sample.
“There was an increase in carbon dioxide thousands of years ago, but we've always followed the rise in temperature,” he said. “They didn't Cause The temperature rises. ”
Newsom retorted by pointing to extreme weather patterns, saying, “There was a three-year historic drought. The most important drought in the state's history – the most important drought in the state's history – the state ended in three weeks.”
However, Savage remained skeptical and claimed that climate change always happened naturally.
“In 1872, California was very hot before the first internal combustion engine was present, but the corn fields exploded from a heat wave in the Sacramento Valley,” he said.
Crime and the decline of San Francisco
Savage explained the turning point in his relationship with San Francisco.
“I was having dinner in North Beach and a man came in – if you want to call him, I'll get out of his pants and defecate outside the street window,” he said, adding, “No politeness, there is no civic order in the country.”
Newsom acknowledged the crisis but defended the city's efforts by saying, “The homeless population… not a static environment… decades have passed.”
However, Savage insisted on a stronger approach and offered his own “solution” to the problems.
“You will build camps for them in places outside the city and give them the care they need against their will,” he suggested.
Newsom retorted that California is already working on the issue, citing recent reforms, including “we can strengthen maintenance laws and drive people out of the streets.”
The Democratic Party's future
Asked what Democrats need to learn from recent political changes, Savage pointed to what he saw as alienation of working-class voters.
“It was this constant drumbeat that sparked most of the people who opposed the Democrats, going back many years and slandered white men,” he said. “'White Hegemony', 'White Hegemony', 'White Hegemony'”
He also cited the impact of gender ideology in schools as a turning point.
“The trans issues have caused women who are usually liberal,” Savage said. “But when kids are brainwashed in school to embrace that kind of thing in kindergarten – hey, I'm a sexual libertarian.
The impact of Trump and Savage
Savage argued that many of President Donald Trump's important story points were inspired by his own work. [and] We talked about it. He ran on your platform. ”
I call myself “what many fathers.” [Trump’s] He expressed his dissatisfaction that he was not formally recognized due to his influence, saying, “No one has called me from the White House, so we want to give you a medal of Presidential Freedom.” ”
The conversation was marked with mutual respect despite the sharp arguments.
“Not me, you or you, don't have to agree with me, so that we can sit and have a civilized conversation,” Savage pointed out. “This is the only way to solve the issue of national and national rights, and I feel the same about the country itself. The left and right are in each other's throats. They hate each other and they want me not to be part of this podcast, screaming like a yelling idiot.”
“We're not going anywhere with that,” he added. “That's ridiculous, ridiculous.”
Newsom agreed, adding that it was the “whole point” of these discussions.
The full interview is due to be released Tuesday as it captivates two towering figures from opposite sides of the political spectrum and engages in candid discussions rarely seen in today's divided climate.
Joshua Klein is a reporter for Breitbart News. Email him at jklein@breitbart.com. Follow him on Twitter @joshuaklein.
