Former network host Don Lemon was asked about his stance on the government’s COVID-19 response, online censorship and the views he expressed as a CNN host.
Lemon sat down with personalities Kyle Forgiard and Aaron “Stiney” Steinberg. Nerk Boysand entrepreneur Bradley Martin:Full Send Podcast“There was more tough questioning than viewers see on most network news broadcasts.”
Lemon received significant backlash from Martin and Faujard over his stance on COVID-19 vaccines and the spread of “misinformation” online.
The former CNN anchor’s position was that she believes the information provided by vaccine advocates, health officials and the government is largely honest and aimed at saving “as many people as possible.”
“Did I make mistakes along the way? Of course, that’s life,” said Lemon, 58, explaining that he believes not getting vaccinated or wearing a mask was “selfish” and that people should have done what was best for their fellow citizens.
“I paid $2,000 for a fake. [vaccine card].
But Martin disagreed.
“The COVID vaccine is here now. Get it,” Martin said, summarizing the overall narrative. [Chris] “What Cuomo said and what others are saying now is that they knew there were other ways people could implement it, and ivermectin was one of them.”
“I believe in medicine, I believe in science, and I believe that my government cares about me and wants the best for me,” Lemon responded. “If the scientists, the doctors … the virologists say that this vaccine is safe and that ivermectin has no effect on the virus, then I’m going to take the vaccine.”
Lemon then disagreed with Faujaard, who said the media was blaming people for not getting vaccinated and that deaths were the fault of unvaccinated people.
“I think people have been selfish in that respect. If you don’t want to get the vaccine then don’t get it, but don’t feel like you can do or go anywhere in the world where someone has been vaccinated.”
“And you have to work and earn a living, right?” Martin interjected. “Don’t you understand that the whole traditional media was saying, ‘We need this,’ but a lot of people were thinking, ‘Is this just about protecting and helping people, or is this just about big pharma and big business?'”
Lemon called it a “conspiracy theory” and reiterated that the virus is “something nobody knew about, it’s new, and it’s killing people.”
After Mr Faujaard and Mr Martin revealed they had not been vaccinated but Mr Lemon had, Mr Faujaard said he obtained a fake vaccination card.
“I paid $2,000 for a fake.”
“Personally, and it’s not up to me to decide, I think people who play women’s sports are inherently at an advantage and probably stronger.”
Limiting “misinformation”
“This was normal all over the world. That’s no longer the case, and things have eased,” Lemon said of online censorship, defending the removal of misinformation.
Martin noted that while Lemon was able to appear on network television shows and speak his mind about the matter, content creators, including himself, were literally unable to voice opposing views online.
“Some people knew, but they kept quiet,” Martin continued. “I can accept that. [that it’s over] But … these are people whose lives have been ruined, and you can’t just say, ‘Sorry, it’s over. It’s not the same now.'”
Lemon then tried to compare the lives ruined by the coronavirus lockdown to people who have been jailed for smoking marijuana.
“If people are spreading misinformation and lies… I believe in freedom of speech, but if people are actively spreading misinformation that is hurting people and putting people’s lives, safety and health at risk, I think that should be corrected,” he added.
“At this early stage of the virus it’s impossible to spot misinformation – who gets to decide what is misinformation?” Mr Forjad countered.
Transgender Theory
The conversation turned to transgender athletes competing against women, with Steinberg noting that it’s been a “great year” for women in sports, but the University of South Carolina women’s basketball coach said men should be able to play women’s basketball.
“Do you believe biological males should be able to participate in women’s sports?” Faujaard asked Lemon directly.
“I think it should be studied, but I don’t think so,” Lemon responded.
“What are you studying?” asked Forjaad.
“Physically, men are stronger and faster than women. So, I have my doubts about that myself. For me personally, and it’s not for me to decide, I think that people who play women’s sports have an inherent advantage and are probably stronger than women,” LeMond explained.
The answer mirrored many of the former CNN host’s responses, which often appealed to authority figures: doctors, health officials and educators.
The latter was used when asked about children being taught gender theory in school.
“I don’t think there’s anything wrong with kids having knowledge,” he said of children, adding that he’s not in a position to say such things because he’s not an educator.
Ms Forjad asked if that included telling kids they could “be any gender,” to which Mr Lemon compared it to being told as a child that he could be Superman.
“We’ve all been told the same thing,” Lemon shot back.
“Not from a gender perspective, but from a career perspective,” Faujaard clarified.
“I don’t think kids are being indoctrinated at all,” Lemon said, noting that he is gay and attended a Catholic school.
The podcasters also asked Lemon to clarify what he means by LGBTQ+ and why gay people are lumped together with transgender people, though Forjad said Lemon’s explanation was easier to understand than that of transgender people.
“I think gay people are better advocates for transgender people because transgender people are not very good at advocating for their issues.”
“It takes a gay person to come and logically defend them.”
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