Joe Rogan said establishment media, once friendly to President-elect Donald Trump, then engaged in years of “psychological operations” to convince Americans that Trump was dangerous. claimed to have done so.
“The Joe Rogan Experience” is one of the most popular podcasts in the world, and Mr. Rogan interviewed Mr. Trump and endorsed his candidacy in the 11th hour, making him a key player in the 2024 election. considered to be one of the characters. Since then, the podcaster has lost trust with voters and mocked the media for alienating lifelong liberals like himself.
On Thursday's episode with comedians Shane Gillis, Marc Normans, Ari Shaffer and others, Rogan played a clip from Trump's 2012 cheering appearance on “The View,” while former entertainment and media He recalled how friendly people were to Trump. When he visited Oprah, she asked him about running for president.
Since then, The View has frequently published apocalyptic views on Trump, and Oprah has shredded Trump while campaigning with Vice President Kamala Harris. Rogan said the sudden shift in tone against Trump was shocking in hindsight, arguing: “What we witnessed was the biggest media psychological operation in history.”
Joe Rogan anchors the broadcast during the UFC 281 event at Madison Square Garden in New York City on November 12, 2022. (Chris Unger/Zuffa LLC)
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Podcast hosts continued to hit legacy media.
“What we're seeing with President Trump, regardless of his shortcomings, is a massive, focused psychological operation,” Logan said. “They distorted his character to such an extent that most people think that way. That's what most people think. They came with a story.”
“What is psychological operations? I always ask,” Normand said.
“It's a psychological operation,” Logan explained. “Where they decided to distort people's perception of things.”
Shafir responded that older liberals are shocked to hear that former President Obama oversaw more deportations than Trump. “They say, 'That doesn't make sense,' and you say, 'Yeah, focus on what gives you the reality of the world,'” he said.

Trump's interview with podcast host Joe Rogan has now been viewed more than 52 million times. (Screenshot/Joe Rogan Experience)
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Logan then consults producer Jamie and asks him to show her a “wild” quote from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2008 about “wild MAGA things” about “illegal immigrants.” I asked.
“I think we're going to have to get tough. Tell people to come out of the shadows. If they commit a crime, deport them, no questions asked,” Clinton can be heard saying on the recording.
“She's a Republican,” Shafir joked.
In the recording, Clinton added: “If they're working and law-abiding, we should say, 'Here are the conditions for your stay here. You came here illegally. So I have to pay a steep fine. I have to pay my taxes back, I have to learn English, I have to wait in line.”
Guests expressed shock at Clinton's past statements.
“Everyone's cheering, saying, 'You've got to wait in line,'” Logan said. “2008. Hillary Clinton was more MAGA than Trump. But so what? More MAGA than Trump. It's all a terrible illusion. It's all a terrible illusion. They all do this when it suits them. “It's exactly the same thing. ”
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But Logan argued this election showed the tide had turned.
“They've always controlled the media. This election is the first time they've really lost control of the media,” Logan said.
When asked why, the podcaster said, “It's our fault, it's the podcast's fault, it's social media's fault, it's X's fault.”





