Elon Musk and his Doge team members discuss their efforts to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse from the government and deal with their critics and more.
Airbnb co-founder Joe Gebbia is playing a role in the Elon Musk-led Office of Government Efficiency (DOGE), seeking to digitalize the government's retirement process, calling the current system “fraud against civil servants.”
“This will be an online digital process that will take at most days… it's fraudulent for civil servants exposed to these processes,” Gebvia said in an exclusive sit-in interview with the “Special Report” on Thursday. Gebia joins Musk and six other members of the Doge team. Departmental Cost Reduction Mission With Executive Editor Bret Baier.
Gebvia said it aims to turn the paper-based retirement process for federal employees into a system that only takes a few days. He said the outdated system of current state will take months.
Musk says that Doge Cuts is needed, or that “American ships sink.”
Airbnb co-founder Joe Gebbia will speak at an event held in London on November 19th, 2019. (Daniel Leal/AFP via Getty Images/Getty Images)
“There is a mine in Pennsylvania that houses all the paperwork for the government's retirement process,” Gebia said.
Job applications by federal workers at DOGE targeted agencies
“This huge cave houses 22,000 filing cabinets, 10 sheets of paper, tall, 400 million sheets,” he said, adding that the process began in the 1950s and has little changed over the past 70 years.
“We really believe that the government can have experience in stores like Apple. A beautifully designed, excellent user experience, modern system,” Gebvia continued.
His efforts are one of Doge's broader goals to eliminate “waste and fraud” from the federal government. On Thursday, Musk said Doge was trying to cut government spending by at least 15%. I think this is “very achievable.”
Musk previously stated that because the country's debt is so high, interest payments exceed the entire military budget and Doge is needed to prevent the country from sinking into bankruptcy.
Immediately after the president Donald Trump In office, he gave the mask organisation 18 months, streamlining government operations and cutting spending.
Since then, the department has cancelled numerous diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives with federal agencies, consulting agreements, leases of unused federal buildings, and replication agencies and programs.
Elon Musk, senior White House adviser and CEO of Tesla, will listen at the Cabinet meeting held by President Donald Trump at the White House on March 24, 2025. (Get McNamee / Getty Images / Getty Images)
As of March 28th, Doge's claim The website says it saved Americans $130 billion, or $807.45 per taxpayer, from a combination of asset sales, contract/lease cancellation and renegotiation, fraud and improper payment removal, subsidies cancellation, interest savings, program changes, regulatory savings and labor supply.
However, these cuts have challenges. Some judges have already called for the recovery of probation employees at dozens of fired agencies. Last week, two judges issued a series of rulings that effectively restored workers from 24 agencies.
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Musk's work with Doge has in some cases encouraged protests from the enemy. Target Teslaan automaker where he serves as CEO. These cases feature vandalism cases targeting individual Tesla owners, as well as dealers and charging stations from EV manufacturers.
As of March 28, Doge claims it has saved Americans $130 billion on its website. (Photo: Samuel Corum / Getty Images / Getty Images)
Lawmakers also raised several concerns. Sen. Lisa Murkowski of R-Alaska posted earlier this month that an employee of the U.S. International Development Agency in Alaskan informed her about the “disrupted and ruthless treatment of personnel by the OPM and Doge,” and informed her that she “drawn an incredibly nasty picture of what the world looks like.” No humanitarian assistance From the US. ”
Eric Revell from Fox Business contributed to this report.
