Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., was reprimanded as an “elite” during a recent Oxford Union debate when she argued that populism in the United States was a threat to democracy.
Pelosi, a self-described “devout” Catholic, said during the April 25 debate that she believes certain Americans are “poor people looking for answers” and that she thinks Democrats are giving her answers on certain topics. He said he was refusing to accept an answer. “Guns, homosexuals, [and] God. “
Pelosi’s position on the populism debate has been challenged by former Mumford & Sons musician Winston Marshall, who now hosts the Spectator podcast Marshall Matters. expressed an opposing position. oxford union motion “This House believes that populism is a threat to democracy.”
The Oxford Union, a prestigious British university, positions itself as a champion of free speech and has held events with numerous US politicians, including former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Kevin McCarthy. has been hosted.
In an April 25 debate, Marshall argued that the meaning of the word “populist” had been changed by “elites.” [who] They couldn’t fit into their own story.
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Pelosi, a self-described “devout Catholic,” argued that populism is a threat to democracy, saying that some Americans “are obsessed with guns, gays, [and] God. “ (Getty Images)
“‘Populism’ has become a word synonymous with ‘racist.’ We are ‘ethno-nationalists,’ ‘bigots,’ ‘hillbillies,’ ‘rednecks,’ and ‘deplorables.’ “I’ve heard that,” Marshall said. In her remarks, Pelosi argued that modern American populism has an ethno-nationalist character.
“Elites use this word to show their disdain for ordinary people,” Marshall said.
Marshall argued that the meaning of the word “populist” has changed.” This is a “recent change,” he said, pointing to a 2016 speech by then-President Barack Obama, who “resulted at the idea that President Trump would be called a populist.”
“If anything, Mr. Obama claimed he was a populist. If anything, Mr. Obama claimed Bernie was a populist.” “A strange thing happens. If you look at Obama’s subsequent speeches, you’ll see that lately he’s increasingly used the word ‘populist’ interchangeably with ‘strongman’ or ‘authoritarian.'” changes its meaning and becomes negative, derogatory, or defamatory.”
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Marshall highlighted the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot, which he believed was a “really dark day for America,” adding, “I’m sure that Congresswoman Pelosi also spent the entire month of June 2020 thinking that federal courthouses were insurrection.” I’m sure he’ll agree to wake me up.” It was another dark day for America, with Portland, Oregon under siege and rebellion by radical progressives. ”
At that point, Pelosi raised her hand and said, “There’s no equivalence there. … It’s not like what happened on January 6th, which was an insurrection incited by the president of the United States.”
“But what I’m saying is that any political movement is susceptible to violence, and indeed riots,” Marshall said. “Populism is not a threat to democracy. Populism is democracy. And if it doesn’t rein in elites, why do we need universal suffrage?”
Marshall said Pelosi’s support for the motion was “rather surprising” because she believed “the left should be anti-elite” and “the left should be anti-establishment.” I was surprised.”
“Today, especially in America, the globalist left is in control,” he continued. “She would argue that if Ms. Pelosi were on this side of her argument, she would lose her job.
Marshall went on to argue that “populism is the voice of the voiceless” and that “the real threat to democracy lies with elites.”
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Winston Marshall argued that “populism is the voice of the voiceless” and that “the real threat to democracy comes from elites.” (Getty Images)
“Make no mistake about it. We need an elite. If President Biden has shown us anything, we need someone to run the country,” he said. “When the president develops severe dementia, it’s not just America that collapses; the whole world goes up in flames.”
Marshall shifted his focus to examining elites and said he believes Trump should have accepted the results of the 2020 presidential election.
“Hillary should do the same in 2016, Brussels and Westminster should do the same in 2016, and Speaker Pelosi should stop saying, quote, the 2016 election was ‘hijacked.’ .”
“That’s right,” Pelosi interjected, drawing laughter from those in attendance.
“That doesn’t mean we won’t accept the consequences,” she added.
In his speech opposing the motion, Marshall also took aim at social media companies and mainstream media outlets that banned President Trump from their platforms following the Jan. 6 protests at the Capitol.
“Mainstream media elites are part of a class that not only despises populism, but despises the people. If Democrats put half as much energy into serving the people, Trump would have 2024… You wouldn’t even have had a chance…You’ve done that.” From the fabricated Steele dossier to trying to get him off the ballot in both Maine and Colorado, Democrats are anti-Democrats.” said.
“Populism is not a threat to democracy, but let me tell you what it is: elites ordering social media to censor their political opponents,” Marshall said. “…It’s the cronies of Brussels, Washington DC, Westminster, the mainstream media, Big Tech, Big Pharma, corporate collusion, and Davos.”
Speaking before Secretary Marshall, Pelosi said, “Democracy is the rule of law, democracy is free and fair elections, democracy is an independent judiciary, a free press, transparency. and hold elected officials accountable to the people.” ”
“That’s what it’s all about, and that’s what the populist government in Washington, D.C., is against,” she added. “Ethno-nationalist populism is a threat to so-called elites and press freedom, as well as a threat to democracy,” she said. “It’s about fighting issues related to free and fair elections. There’s been n-level voter suppression under this administration, and resistance to passing things like the Voting Rights Act and the John Lewis Act.”
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At one point, Pelosi said, while talking about people who think of themselves as part of a populist movement or who think they are “poor souls looking for some answers,” she said, “We’re not trying to help them.” I gave them to them, but they are blocked.” Depending on how they view guns, women have the three G’s: guns, homosexuals, and God, and it’s their right to choose between them, and that cultural issues are really about their interests. It clouds their perception of the debate. ”
The motion discussed by Marshall and Pelosi ultimately received a 177-68 vote from attendees at the Oxford Union event.
