Former 2024 Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy spoke to political commentator and Daily Caller co-founder Tucker Carlson about a “huge reorganization” of the federal bureaucracy in an interview published Friday.
President-elect Donald Trump won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, and secured a Republican majority in the Senate. Ramaswamy detailed how the next administration can remove and separate federal agencies from Washington, D.C., to effect systemic change.
“I don't think many of those institutions should exist. Certainly many of them that continue to exist should be moved to other parts of the country,” he told Carlson.
Ramaswamy said the Surgeon General and the U.S. Department of Agriculture should not be located in Washington, D.C., and named the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services among the organizations in need of major reform.
“I think you're being unfairly segregated in Washington, D.C.,” Ramaswamy said, before noting that the U.S. Department of Education should be abolished entirely.
“I see the process of just saying, 'Okay, let's get them out of Washington, D.C.,' as a kind of polite and graceful way to avoid or circumvent what actually needs to be done.” “I don't want to start. Everything requires a jackhammer and a chainsaw,” he added.
“But even if the countries continue to exist, they will actually be more accountable to their people, and in some parts of the country where they don't mind a little bit of growth, perhaps some We can also inspire people to get out of Washington, D.C. and come to our own backyard,'' Ramaswamy said.
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Ramaswamy said many federal employees would quit voluntarily if they had to show up to work every day. He suggested that President Trump immediately lay off about 75% of the federal workforce to prevent his administration from becoming more bureaucratic from day one. (Related: Federal authorities raid the home of Trump-supporting farmer and businessman Alfie Oakes)
“The Department of Education is a good example,” Ramaswamy told Carlson. “Shut it down. Send the money back. Worker training could be transferred to the Department of Labor, and loan collection could be transferred to the Treasury Department.”
“This is just a huge opportunity for a major reorganization and therefore a reduction in the bureaucracy. And even if another president comes back, it's not like we can undo it with fiat money. So this is a one-way ratchet. It would have to go through Congress to actually do it,” he said.
Ramaswamy has made it clear that he wants to be involved in the reorganization of the federal government under the next Trump administration.
“Will you join us in this effort?” asked Carlson.
“I want to be, yes, absolutely. I've thought about it a lot. It was the centerpiece of my presidential campaign. I spent a year and a half of my life there. That was probably the most. I mean, I has taken many positions on many things, but this is probably the most informative and certainly personally important to me and is part of the policy side of my campaign last year,” Ramaswamy said. answered. “And yes, I've been on board for the past few months. So this is what the blueprint should be.”
