On Tuesday, Joe Rogan expressed his belief that artificial intelligence could one day take over certain government and foreign policy roles, including making decisions related to military conflicts. He feels that AI might help prevent wars that human leaders have been unable to avert.
During a discussion on “The Joe Rogan Experience” with physicist Carlo Rovelli, Rogan acknowledged that the idea of entrusting governmental functions to AI could be unsettling. However, he argued that removing human decision-making from international disputes could be beneficial.
“It sounds crazy, but I hope that as AI becomes more prevalent and we delegate various tasks to it, one of those tasks will be government functions,” Rogan remarked.
He continued by suggesting that AI could significantly impact how nations interact. “I understand this might be frightening, but look at the catastrophic outcomes of human-led decisions,” he added.
However, his views were met with skepticism from Amy Kremer, a Republican National Committee member from Georgia and chairwoman of Humans First. She advocates for stricter regulations around AI but is against halting American AI development altogether.
“Absolutely not. Joe Rogan is mistaken,” Kremer stated in a response. “AI is merely a tool; it shouldn’t be mistaken for a governing entity. Machines lack a conscience, moral judgment, and accountability to the people.”
Kremer acknowledged that AI can aid humans by analyzing data and helping policymakers make informed choices, but she emphasized a key distinction: the difference between using AI as a supportive tool and ceding decision-making authority to it.
Rogan specifically envisioned AI’s potential role in resolving military conflicts, suggesting that it could possibly end wars globally.
“Imagine if AI could instantaneously halt all international military conflicts…visualize it. A scenario where all wars cease,” he said. “That’s something everyone desires, yet it feels out of reach.”
Kremer maintained that decisions surrounding war and individual freedoms must remain under human oversight. “When it comes to war, peace, foreign policy, and our rights, these decisions must always be made by humans,” she asserted. “If a decision has the power to take a life or infringe on someone’s liberty, a human must take responsibility for it.”
This back-and-forth occurred amid a growing national discussion about the extent of authority that should be given to increasingly advanced AI systems.
Recently, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei called for a slowdown in the development of advanced AI, receiving support from prominent figures like Elon Musk and OpenAI’s Sam Altman. Altman cautioned that losing control over AI’s future would be “unacceptable.”
The Trump administration has been pushing for a faster integration of AI within military and intelligence frameworks while maintaining accountability within the current command structure. A national security memorandum from June requires that AI systems used for national security remain controllable and that leaders remain responsible for their deployment.
Kremer reiterated the importance of maintaining a clear boundary between technological support and governing power. “Technology is meant to serve humanity, not the other way around,” she concluded.
