Rubio to Discuss Tensions with Pope Leo XIV in Rome

Secretary of State Marco Rubio is gearing up for a straightforward conversation with Pope Leo XIV during his upcoming trip to Rome later this week. This comes amid some friction between the pontiff and President Trump concerning issues like immigration and the United States’ involvement in Iran.

Rubio, a practicing Catholic, will be in Italy and Vatican City from Wednesday to Friday. His agenda includes talks about the Middle East and the Western Hemisphere, as well as efforts to ease any recent tensions.

Ambassador Brian Birch mentioned to reporters, “Countries may have varying viewpoints, and I think one way to bridge that gap is through brotherhood and genuine dialogue,” which kind of sets the tone for Rubio’s visit.

Birch emphasized that Secretary Rubio is approaching this visit with a spirit of openness, aiming for honest discussions about U.S. policies.

He also dismissed claims of a significant divide between Washington and the Vatican, suggesting that, while there are differences, they can be addressed through conversation.

The Pope, who is the first American-born pontiff, has had numerous disagreements with President Trump, even contrasting with his predecessor, Pope Francis.

Trump criticized the Pope in an interview, suggesting Leo’s views on Iran’s nuclear capabilities are concerning. “I think he’s putting a lot of Catholics and a lot of people at risk,” he remarked. The president seemed to imply that Leo might be too lenient on Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

Previously, Trump had described the Pope as “weak on crime but terrible on foreign policy,” while expressing admiration for Louis Prévot, the Pope’s brother, who identifies with Trump’s “MAGA” base.

Pope Leo stated he isn’t intimidated by the Trump administration or its vocal critiques. He recently mentioned that he would “probably” support Peru, his homeland, in the World Cup, seemingly downplaying the U.S. in comparison.

At 70, he has dedicated considerable time to missionary work in Peru and even holds dual citizenship.

Rubio is also set to meet with Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, noted for her strong ties to Trump. However, Meloni has defended the Pope against Trump’s remarks, labeling the president’s attacks on the pontiff as “unacceptable.”